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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:25 pm   Post subject:   

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First you're stalking me by cruising my forums (similar to those progressive guys joining one shopowners church to find the dirt on them), then you chirp and dance thinking your sleuthing skills outed me. And now you are considering calling area shops to check on me? Now that's bordering on harassing Lori. Give it up! Your friends are worrying about you and frankly I am too.
Mike you have gone and lost your pee pickin' mind! No one stalks you, you repeated source and ask us to read the posts on ''your '' site....more over, I was sure you would infer that EVERYONE in Joplin got paid for the operations you do...so no biggie, I'm sure there are some drp shops for my company in Joplin that I could call and check..period..re: outting you? seriously? You send us to this site, that you post using your own name, how in the world is that outting you? You've lost it brother...
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Lori, did you mean rescind or resend, cause I would be happy to resend but not rescind?
You should be ashamed of yourself, really...



Mike I truly hope that this enternet presona is just that, and not the real Mike you come off as a self serving, self promoting, gradizing, truth twisting, little bitty man...I feel truly sorry for you, if this is not just an enternet persona that you have developed for trolling perposes..
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but I'll not respond
LaughingLaughingLaughing You already broke that same promise you've made about ten times, and responded again already! that lasted all of let's see what about 18 hours? Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:43 pm   Post subject:   

Mike,

I don't think what other shops charge for or write on an estimate should have anything to do with what another shop charges for-not all Ins. Co's charge the same rate. Besides if all shops charged the same wouldn't that be price fixing? Not to mention possible Anti-trust violations. Ins. Co. need to pay for the procedures to repair a vehicle back to pre-accident condition and need to get over the fact that some shops educate themselves and have learned the P-Pages of the very soft ware the Ins. Co. request or use themselves.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:08 pm   Post subject: betterment factor  

i will say this, that i am not fond of insurance companies but as an individual and taking away the insurance company from a claim, i would find it unfair for me to bare the complete cost of a new tire when the tire i collided with was worn badly. so in this case i understand the insurance companies view on betterment.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:17 pm   Post subject:   

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Mike,

I don't think what other shops charge for or write on an estimate should have anything to do with what another shop charges for-not all Ins. Co's charge the same rate. Besides if all shops charged the same wouldn't that be price fixing? Not to mention possible Anti-trust violations. Ins. Co. need to pay for the procedures to repair a vehicle back to pre-accident condition and need to get over the fact that some shops educate themselves and have learned the P-Pages of the very soft ware the Ins. Co. request or use themselves.




Most new policies state that the insurer may prepare an estimate based on manuals used in the industry and based on competitive prevailing rates in the market. Well we could argue as long as this post is about who sets the market and controls it and how it relates to price fixing. Insurers have a legion of excuses why they only owe what they estimate the loss to be. If repairers actually knew cost accounting and did not rely on the insurance industry for the bi-annual 2.00 raises and knew the cost of their doing business with a reasonable profit margin built in and posted that rate, then you could actually do a survey and obtain a prevailing rate.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:39 am   Post subject: blend times  

I have been an auto and aircraft painter for 35 plus years ,seen it all heard it all.done it all. now just the term blending is a leftover from the lacquer years but the insurance compenies and different estiating programs keep on using this archaeic phrase that went out with the sixties. It needs to be legislated into a new term called clearcoat with color blend times for adjacent panels for color match purposes. (1). on the panel to be so called blended ,we the painter have to go through all the washing of organic and solvent based crap on the panel even buffing it if it is a light color. take a fine toothbrush and get out all the mold green slime and reaally clean the hell out of it, (2) . then we have to sand it with whatever and wash and blow shammy it down 4 or 5 times to get it realy clean.(3) THEN WE HAVE TO WIPE IT DOWN WITH WAX AND GREASE AGAIN!.(4) then mask off entire panel to be BLENDED. (5). then when we have the right tint of paint ,a whole other story. we mask off a hood to be blended a new fender and a door to be so called blended. so now we spray the paint and wit overspray are basecoating 3/4 of the so called blend panel. (6) then we have to clearcoat the ENTIRE so called blend panel/ .so us painters are doing 90% of what a entire base clear process is.. BUT now were told that our time is cut in half. Of course this is a complete rip off by the insurance companies and their lacky estimating partners. What to do ? I am contacting my states insurance comission and with 2 years of photo,s for evidence. They have agreed to hear my case of getting out of the sixties verbage. and If I can prove were doing 90% not 50 % like we get paid for . they will put new legislation and rules in place for all insurance companies. that if you want to insure automobiles in our state. you will now pay 90% of that old panel that has gone through 10 times as much labor as the new panel to get ready for a complete clear coat and a 3/4 basecoat. Now suzy q estimator on here answer that one. you havent painted a tricycle idiot, and your gonna tell the pros and the young whinners that don't know any better any different than what Ive pointed out????? A blend is from the lacquer days, when you could actually do a blend. , the old timers on here know what I am talking about. also I make 90k a year. If your not making that much then your an idiot and better get out. thats working 7 days a week 365. I can work anybody on here under the table. and I get paid for fill and block. and the denib stuff is under betterment in audatex. if its an old crap heap you don't get it but if its a 40k + new rig you can manually put it in. if a shop dosen,t get fill and block plus car bag their idiots. giving away the store. by law the customer can go where ever they want even if the estimate is higher. I work comission and live in Alaska and feel sorry for all you poor bodyman in the lower 48.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:17 am   Post subject:   

Good thing you brought up a thread that had no posts for a year and a half. I was worrying that it would not going to live again.



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:18 pm   Post subject: tcope  

hey thanks for my first reply. this is a good forum. do you aree with my viewpoint? I guess i will be starting some new threads on here. as Ive been doing this so long and know all the insurance tricks. Today I have to blend a whole side of a extra long passenger van. for 3.2 hours. it is huge and really requires 5 to 7 hours to do right . I am going to request more time from my boss or . Im just gonna do a real blend 3.5 feet into the panel. and buff in my clear. after using reducer on every edge coat of my clear.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:48 am   Post subject:   

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I guess i will be starting some new threads on here


If that's your plan, please don't dredge up threads that have been silent for more than 6-8 months. Post a "New Topic" instead.


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