I guess this is why I can not see why this arguement is ongoing.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:59 am   Post subject:   

From your explanation I don't think PA is that much different concerning parts. Why would a person have to worry if they went to a preferred shop that inspected the parts anyway? I am though anxious to see what the new changes will be...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:04 pm   Post subject:   

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Why would a person have to worry if they went to a preferred shop that inspected the parts anyway?
they wouldn't that's the point...and they 'shouldn't' with any shop that guarantees their own work, and is an ethical business...they should be providing the owners with a final repair order that shows everything done to the vehicle and that includes the type of parts put on the vehicle...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:14 pm   Post subject:   

I guess this is why I can not see why this arguement is ongoing. I just take mine to a preferred shop. I have done this a few times in the past. I always stick with the same insurance compnay recommended place and never had a bit of trouble. Sure there are other closer garages but I want my vehicle in one of these preferred shops since there is a reason they are considered "preferred". If the insurance company is happy with them then I figure I will be too. They are not going to suggest a shop that has problems.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:58 pm   Post subject:   

I agree with you, but your post will likely remind me of the old song, 'who let the dogs out''...i'm heading for cover WinkLaughing



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:15 pm   Post subject:   

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I don't know why. I'm just glad we can all finally agree that AM parts are just as good as OEM and there is no reason not to use AM parts.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:15 pm   Post subject:   

I surely hope anyone reading this and is deserving of, won't be disappointed,if at retirement time, they get a knockoff rolex, since it's just like the real thing. The only difference is the value. It performs just as the real thing, looks just like, and keeps time like a real watch.



Oh wait, the contract of insurance promises to put you back to where you belong and tort law says your allowed to be made whole. Sorry folks you can't be made whole with cheap imitations that do not represent the value of the product you are replacing, it's that simple.



Like, kind and quality......I think the knockoff falls short on quality which also represents value.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:49 pm   Post subject:   

I really do not think after market parts are not of quality. We have used more parts that were after market parts than I can probaly count. Never had any problems with them. Lets say you back your vehicle into a wall, garage or whatever. Its not worth calling the insurance company so you fix it yourself. Are you going to go buy a brand new bumper from the place that has name brand parts or are you going to price an aftermarket part? I know I am going to go for after market or maybe even to a junk yard and find that part for cheaper. So what is the difference in if the insurance compnay does it or you do it yourself.

It looks good, drives good and has a "quality" part on it so just got in it and go. I am sure if a person would have any problem they could contact the insurance company with in a reasonable amount of time and have the situation taken care of. The parts they put on vehicles now a days half the time are not even quality to begin with, in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:52 pm   Post subject:   

Little correction..the parts the manufacturers put on vehicles are not even quality half the time.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:08 pm   Post subject:   

It's impossible to disagree or agree with someone who has never had to paint, alterate, and install these parts and have to stop work in progress to get a quality part to replace the a/m part and hold up production. My Missouri State Unfair Claims statute says that insurers must pay the costs of alteration to make imitation parts fix. Good luck with that and if they are exactly of the same quality, why would they need altered to fit?



You sound just like the person a/m parts were made for. Someone unable to actually perceive the difference in quality in an imitation automotive collision part. I am sure you would enjoy the rolex knockoff to go along with a zirconium diamond.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:16 pm   Post subject:   

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to make imitation parts fix.
correction "to make imitation parts fit"



On another point when you are fixing that boo boo from hitting your garage wall and not turning it into insurance, you can darn well put a two by four piece of lumber on it if you prefer imitation parts since you are making the decision. It is the contract of insurance we are discussing which has a contractual obligation to restore the vehicle with an actual part that is one of like kind and quality. Therein lies the difference.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:28 pm   Post subject:   

Now, now insults will not help make your post "worth" more. I was just rying to suggest that after market parts are commonly used and I HAVE NOT had any problems with them. My whole family has always worked on our own vehicles, fixing, painting and more. We do it for ourselves friends..all for free. Maybe thats the problem...it pulls money from the garages. AND for your information we never had to alter the parts to get them the fit..amazingly they were an exact match.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:30 pm   Post subject:   

OOps correction thats "trying" to suggest not rying

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:44 pm   Post subject:   

WOOps, also forgot to mention that manufacturers tell you to buy original equipment manufacturer (OEM) parts for your vehicle to ensure safety and performance, but did you know these manufacturers don't even make their own parts?

That's right. They use outside independent companies to design their parts, and after a certain amount of time, they sell these parts to wholesale distributors for resale, which are known as OEM parts. It's a similar situation with aftermarket parts – which simply means the product is made by a company other than the original manufacturer of the car. So what is the difference again? WOOF, woof.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:51 am   Post subject:   

Fireyone do you feel that the manufacturers of parts are entitled to recover the vast sums of money required by the government to product test and crash test every outer shell sheetmetal part that is installed on a vehicle allowed to be sold by the Automakers?



Do you care about the safety of yourself and your vehicles occupants? The after market parts that you say are produced by vendors are generally non crash related parts.



As a collision business owner, it is my responsibility, as the expert seen by the courts, to repair your vehicle with parts that bear no danger to you and your occupants. I carry liability coverage for making those decisions.



Does it seem fair to you that someone can copycat your product and not perfrom any crash test studies to determine the safety of you and your family.



It has not been proven that these aftermarket parts insure your safety or reduce premiums for consumers. If you think the OEM's lose money on the fact that their sheetmetal is copycatted, you are mistaken. They simply recover their costs on 185.00 weld on replacement door hinges, 1000.00 sliding doors for vans, and three hundred dollar plastic mldgs that decorate your vehicle to protect it from door dings.



With aftermarket (crash replacement) parts, I (the repairer) don't win and you (the consumer and policyholder) don't win, but insurers do. The value of your vehicle diminishes with the use of non original parts and accident histories.





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