Signatures in a life application

by MaxHerr » Tue Dec 08, 2009 02:50 am
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There's a little disagreement over the subject of who must sign a life insurance application and related forms necessary to complete an application for insurance (such as HIPAA consents, HIV testing, etc.).

An otherwise anonymous poster on another thread would like to insist that he can obtain $1,000,000 of life insurance on a proposed insured without the knowledge and consent of the proposed insured.

My contention is that whether it appears explicitly in the insurance code of a particular state or not, in the law of contracts requires the parties to the contract to sign the contract in order for it to be legally in force. Since the insured is a party to the contract, whether he likes it or not, he must answer the various questions in the application (or supply the requested personal information) and attest to their accuracy being "true and complete to the best of my knowledge" (a representation). A third-party owner signs the application to acknowledge his insurable interest, which is a requirement of most if not all Insurance Codes.

Most insurance codes, if not explicitly referring to the insured, infer equivalency between the term "applicant" and "insured". For example, the California Insurance Code (799.03) requires that [for life and disability income insurance] "(a) An insurer that requests an applicant to take an HIV-related test shall obtain the applicant's written informed consent for the test. Written informed consent shall include a description of the test to be performed, including its purpose, potential uses, and limitations, the meaning of its results, procedures for notifying the applicant of the results, and the right to confidential treatment of the results. Prior to the applicant's execution of the consent, the insurer shall:
(1) Provide the applicant printed material describing HIV, its
causes and symptoms, the manner in which it is spread, the test or
tests used to detect HIV or the HIV antibody, and what a person can
do whose test results are positive or negative.
(2) Provide the applicant a list of counseling resources
available, where the applicant can obtain assistance in understanding
the meaning of the test and its results. The list may be provided
from publicly available information.

It is clear from the context, that the Code is referring to the insured, not a third-party applicant/owner whose insurability is not in question. We know that insurers have, for the most part, incorporated such consents within the application, or in additional forms that are made a part of the application. No signed consent, no insurance. Unless the insurance amount is small, say $50,000 or less, the majority of insurers utilize saliva, blood, or urine testing for HIV/AIDS.

Various state and/or federal laws also require informed consent of the insured under a COLI/BOLI policy applied for by their employer, particularly when the beneficiary will be the employer and not a person of the insured's choice, such as when the policy is being used to informally fund a nonqualified employee benefit plan.

Please share your thoughts.

Total Comments: 62

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:46 am Post Subject: insurance

Anyway..........I've gotten alot of great, USEFUL information from MAX (on this Forum) and my Insurance REP. REALLY starting to get some things together, for myself (Insurance wise, I mean) and feeling a bit more secure about providing for my son, etc.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:51 am Post Subject:

That's great. I just hope that he is now the beneficiary of the life insurance or a trust is the beneficiary. It just can't be your friend if you are trying to benefit your son.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:58 am Post Subject: insurance

It's very funny that I'm getting responses from...WHOEVER you are, again. I don't know WHO you are and that's scary. I guess you don't mond 'preying' on people, on this Website. As I said...I was asked ALOT of questions on where my money was going and THEN then 'link' on my Yahoo mail?! You kep 'probing' and 'probing'. I think what I need to do is make some kind of complaint about this Forum, if they don't do anything about people like you. I hope you're not 'preying' on other people......God Help You if you are!! All I have to say is 'what goes around, comes around'. I didn't appriciate the 'email' ( trying to get DETAILED Insurance information from me). I think you need to stop your games now.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:22 pm Post Subject:

I've told you many times who I am. I am Insurance Expert. I'm not hiding my identity. For some reason, it makes me log in every time and doesn't remember me and I'm too lazy to do so.

You should be thanking me because if it wasn't for me, your money would go to your friend and not your son.

You don't like the e-mail and I don't like the accusation. I've never e-mailed you and I never would. How would I even have your e-mail address?

I'm not a game player. I simply respond to your responses. Sorry that you don't like them. The truth often hurts.

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SDcharger,

I'll make your day and stop posting. I have nothing to gain by posting here.

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