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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:55 am   Post subject:   

Yes . . . unless you intend to commingle everything and get yourself in trouble with all manner of taxing authorities.



Two separate businesses . . . two separate FEINs.



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:29 pm   Post subject: FEIN  

Great post and very thorough. Could there be a bit of confusion toward the end of the article? It states you should use SSN to purchase insurance, then goes on to explain that you use FEIN for corps, partnerships, etc.



It seems to me that the purpose of FEIN is to identify a business. I would never use my SSN to purchase insurance for my corp. The corporate veil may be compromised if I mix personal information with corporate info. What are your thoughts?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:28 am   Post subject:   

When you review the IRS guidance for FEIN, you'll see that since a corporation, partnership, LLC, or LLP cannot have a SSN, it must have a FEIN. Sole-proprietors who have employees are encouraged to obtain a FEIN.



Persons who are in the United States to conduct business but do not intend to seek residency status yet may have a personal income tax liability as a result of their business activities (or investments) applies for a TIN (Taxpayer ID Number).



Although not prohibited, however, the IRS prefers that self-employed sole-proprietors who are not incorporated, and who do not have or intend to have employees, use their SSN for tax reporting purposes rather than a FEIN so that they do not list multiple numbers referring to themself on the same return (in addition to that of a spouse as joint filer and children or other dependents). Just too confusing.



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:54 am   Post subject: Fein no of Crown oil corp.  

I have been searching for the Fein no. of Crown oil Corp used to be located at 351 California St. Ssan Francisco Ca. 94104. It was established in the 60's but close operation in july 1990.If you cannot gve me the fein no. please inform me the procedures to find it.Thanks for your information about the pin in your publication. It is a geat help to me to undestand Fein.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:01 pm   Post subject:   

According to the CA Secretary of State's Office ( http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx ), there are several entities with names associated with Crown Oil. Currently active is:



Entity Name: CROWN OIL, INC.

Entity Number: C1870231

Date Filed: 01/24/1994

Status: ACTIVE

Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA

Entity Address: 703 PALOMAR AIRPORT RD. #100

Entity City, State, Zip: CARLSBAD CA 92011

Agent for Service of Process: WILLIAM B TREITLER

Agent Address: 3737 CAMINO DEL RIO SOUTH #109

Agent City, State, Zip: SAN DIEGO CA 92108



Prior to this there were:



BLUE CROWN OIL COMPANY

Entity Number: C0453715

Date Filed: 07/01/1963

Status: SUSPENDED

Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA



Entity Name: COALINGA CROWN OIL COMPANY

Entity Number: C0058489

Date Filed: 09/17/1909

Status: DISSOLVED

Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA



Entity Name: CROWN OIL COMPANY

Entity Number: C0142524

Date Filed: 12/15/1930

Status: DISSOLVED

Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA

Entity Address: 10472 SUNSET BL.

Entity City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90024



Entity Name: CROWN OIL CORPORATION

Entity Number: C0491386

Date Filed: 05/26/1965

Status: SURRENDER

Jurisdiction: NEVADA

Entity Address: 351 CALIFORNIA STREET, SUITE 945

Entity City, State, Zip: SAN FRANCISCO CA 94104

Agent for Service of Process: T. L. BLAKE

Agent Address: 351 CALIFORNIA STREET, SUITE 945

Agent City, State, Zip: SAN FRANCISCO CA 94104



This last one may be the one you are seeking. As a Nevada corporation, it may still exist. I'll leave that up to you. As a last resort, you can contact the IRS. Should be public record information, especially if you are a former employee, or the heir of a former employee, or other person of "interest" with a legitimate right to know



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:10 pm   Post subject: FEIN  

I need my FEIN number


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:28 pm   Post subject:   

Did you apply for a FEIN as a business owner? If so, you can go to any IRS office and obtain a copy of your FEIN.



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:15 pm   Post subject:   

I own a small car dealership why do I have to give my FEIN number to the insurance company


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:58 pm   Post subject:   

You need to give it to them because they asked for it. It's how they track you in their computer systems, and it allows them to match your records to things like your wage and tax reporting for Workers' Compensation premium audits.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:17 pm   Post subject: Insurance Agency Tax ID Options  

Hello, I have a quick question. What is the most common way that Insurance Agencies apply for FEIN with respect to articles of corporation?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:14 pm   Post subject:   

The only way to apply for a FEIN is through the IRS, listing the corporation as the entity applying for the number, and the application must be signed by an executive officer of the corporation.



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:10 pm   Post subject: companyies  

hey what up. look is it possible for a companyies to have the same corporate id# and the same fein number for two different companyies because i have a company name labor force of virginia.inc in po.box 283 saint louis mo.63166-0283 have me working there and labor finder of virginia inc. both of these company has the same corp#id no and have my fein no with both companyies is that right please tell me what can i do


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:30 am   Post subject:   

If the two businesses are in fact the same company, just using slightly different names in each location, it would not be prohibited to use the same FEIN for both. But if one is operating in Missouri and the other is operating in Virginia, each company will have a separate State EIN, as that number will be necessary for reporting state income taxes, not the federal taxes.



There's nothing YOU can do about the FEIN that a business uses. If they are not properly filing quarterly taxes/returns, that's a different story.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:14 pm   Post subject: sulfate revolution  

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:27 am   Post subject: REGISTER A FEIN #  

i HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH A NEW JOB AS A INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR AND i NEED TO GET A FEIN# ASAP BEFORE I CAN BE EMPLOYED. HOWEVER EVERY TIME I CLICK ON How to find FEIN number? I GET NO WHERE OR APPLICATION TO FILL OUT. WHAT AM I DOING INCORRECT? HELP!!! THANK YOU

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