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 Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:07 am Post subject: Cut off and totalled, Other guy fled |
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Hi everyone,
I owned an '89 ford mustang up a hill with a high speed limit. As I was driving up the hill someone in a blue audi cut in front of me driving slower than I was. I swerved out of the way to avoid hitting him and slid off the road, through a fence, and partially down a slope. I had 3 witnesses stop.
Two of the witnesses saw me get cut off and testified that to the police. The last witness saw the guy stop at a light about 500 feet from the accident and run the light to drive away. Nobody got plates on the car.
I'm 24 years old. I was in an accident that was my fault about 5 years ago resulting in about $20,000 in damages. About 7 years ago I was in a no fault accident resulting in $500 in damages. About 7 years ago I had a a ticket for 40 in a 25 zone. 3 years ago I got a DUI. Since then I have not had anything on my record. This accident resulted in a total of my car. My insurance is giving me $4,650 (after $1,000 deductible reduction) and letting me keep the car. The tow bill was $390. About 6 posts in a County fence were knocked down in the process (which looks to be anywhere between $800 and $2,400).
Will my insurance premiums go up? How much should I be paying in insurance?
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| Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Hi Tehmatt, if the accident wasn't your fault and you can have the witnesses vouch for that, your premium rate might remain unaltered.
However, you indeed have a tinted driving record, so better you be careful with driving and yeah, try to improve your driving record at the same time.
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| Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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If your adjuster does their job (getting statements from witnesses etc...and assuming they are independent witnesses) then this would be considered a non-chargeable (not at fault) accident/claim, and therefore no rate up for this claim.
Your carrier will pay for the fencing etc..most likely as an innocent third party...
No way for us to say what you should be paying in premiums...you should'nt be paying anymore after this accident assuming the facts are as you stated, and verifiable..
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| Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Hi Tehmatt,
I think getting $4,650 and retaining the car isn't too bad for the circumstances.
Did the last witness testify whatever he saw?
From what you've said I could see the last one that you had was some 3 years back. I guess you had a clean track record since then. Remember that your insurance carrier is aware of your driving record. Probably they won't count upon the past records afresh if the latest one was none of your fault. Roddick |
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| Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| Lori, don't you think that the OP with his driving record would find it difficult to convince the insurer that he wasn't responsible for the damages? The insurer might not buy his story and he may experience rate increase. |
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I had a similar driving record at a similar age. I had a Columbus, Ohio based insurance company and they opted to switch me to high risk coverage for about $200.00 more a month. It all came down to the patterns of my driving habits, even though I was not at fault for all my accidents. I guess it came down to when was my really big accident going to happen. The way I think they looked at it was that one person can't be that unlucky. 15 years later and more grown up I'm paying less then 400 for the year.
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| Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Lori, don't you think that the OP with his driving record would find it difficult to convince the insurer that he wasn't responsible for the damages? The insurer might not buy his story and he may experience rate increase. |
Possible but in this case he had a total of three (independent i hope) witnesses backing him up, then he should be ok...also if all things are equal and nothing to dispute the insured's version, then most generally (always really) the insured's carrier will give them the benefit of the doubt.
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
That's what leads me to believe that the presence of the last witness some 500 feet away and two others already testified would make things easier for him.
But what if the witnesses are not independent? Does that make a great difference in this particular situation? Roddick |
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | But what if the witnesses are not independent? Does that make a great difference in this particular situation? |
Sure would (if I was handling the claim anyway  ) If they are not independent witnesses most especially with a 'phantom vehicle' claim I wouldn't give them much credit, but mostly likely these are independent
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | had a similar driving record at a similar age. I had a Columbus, Ohio based insurance company and they opted to switch me to high risk coverage for about $200.00 more a month. It all came down to the patterns of my driving habits, even though I was not at fault for all my accidents. |
So, you were charged for being at the wrong place at the wrong time, right? |
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| Quote: | | So, you were charged for being at the wrong place at the wrong time, right? |
Right. Even I can't be that unlucky, I must have been contributing to the accidents in some way even if I did not see it at the time.
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 2:03 am Post subject: Hit and Run |
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Most of the tim the insurance company will pay you out if the person runs ONLY if you can lead to him being captured. So that uninsured motorist coverage you may or not have will not cover you in a hit and run accident. Unfortunatly in a situation like this you will hve to pay your deductible. Normally if you do not have COMP and Collision you will not be able to get your vehicle fixed.
In this situation I forgot the word for it but in a chain of events if someone hits you and causes you to hit someone or something else it goes like this:
CAR(A) ----> CAR(B) ----> (object)
car B is responsible to pay for the object
car a is responsible to pay for car B and car B's insurance company will subrogate with car a's company to get the money back from the damages to the object....but this is how it looks to the insurance company in a hit and run situation.
CAR B ------> Object
since car A drove off you are now responsible for ALL DAMAGES!
it sucks i know...but next time get a plate number or ANYTHING! |
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Most of the tim the insurance company will pay you out if the person runs ONLY if you can lead to him being captured. So that uninsured motorist coverage you may or not have will not cover you in a hit and run accident. |
What?? Don't we guys add the UM coverage in order to keep us covered against the hit-and-run drivers? I never knew that you have to have the information with you to receive the UM benefits.
What if I was hit in a parking lot at the night and there is no information against the driver who hit me? Wouldn't I get coverage from uninsured motorist coverage? |
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Wouldn't I get coverage from uninsured motorist coverage? |
Certainly you would if you have UMPD-to repair your vehicle or UMBI, to repair your body.
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: No no no |
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Lori you are wrong again
UM/U1 only coveres you in ANY other case EXCEPT a Hit and run....
Simon....if you are parked over night and someone hits you...sorry buddy I hope they left a note or that you have comp/collision because YOU are paying for it....sorry....
Lori where did you get THAT information from it is 100% WRONG!!!! |
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