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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:06 pm   Post subject: A question of liability  

I've got one for Lori or another claims professional.

If a house burns down and it's concluded that the homeowner was not guilty of arson, how can that homeowner (or his carrier) be liable for damage to a neighbor's property (a boat) caused by the fire?

Does the neighbor's insurer really have a right to subrogate on this?
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:59 pm   Post subject:   

Do they have a right to subgrogate? Sure... people can ask for anything they want. Will the homeowner be required to pay? Not unless they were liable.

But being liable does not mean the person needs to be guilty of arson. If I knew an appliance was going bad, could result in a fire and I chose to do nothing about it, I'd not be guilty of arson but it could be argued that I was legally liable for the damages caused to someone else's property from the fire.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:42 pm   Post subject:   

Thanks Tcope.
I'll have to ask claims if the cause of the fire was determined and if so what it was. They paid it without question so I assumed they didn't suspect the insured of any involvment arson or otherwise and at this point they haven't paid anything on the subrogation claim just set a reserve.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:34 pm   Post subject:   

The guy who's house burned would've had to have been negligent...in some way I would think....Unless in this case the poor neighbor just had his boat on him own property and the fire was so far reaching that it got to his boat (probably a fiberglass one and it melted right?)...In that case it just might be covered...because your insured's ''problem'' (fire) went to anothers property...however what if the fire ran and burned down the entire neighborhood...???? He would'nt have been held liable for that....interesting question...let us know the outcome...
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:15 pm   Post subject:   

My neighbor had something similar happen regarding smoke damage to his home from a fire next door and the insurance of the homeowner who had the fire paid for the smoke damage.

Interesting point though about the entire neighborhood. I would think not but why stop at the first house. This is going to be very interesting.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:28 pm   Post subject:   

Update.
Our company won the arbitration because the boat's insurer was not able to produce evidence of negligence on the part of our insured.

However, now the boat's owner is filing private suit. Not sure why he thinks his Lawyer will be better than his insurance company's but we shall see.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:05 pm   Post subject:   

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Update.
Our company won the arbitration because the boat's insurer was not able to produce evidence of negligence on the part of our insured
That was our stance as well right? Good...
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However, now the boat's owner is filing private suit. Not sure why he thinks his Lawyer will be better than his insurance company's but we shall see.
That's a joke... Rolling Eyes poor boat owner (IMO) is just digging that (financial) hole deeper and deeper..
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