Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:01 am Post subject: A interesting story, Titanic sunk; insurance fraud?
Another interesting conspiracy theory says that the Titanic was deliberately sunk to gain insurance money. The plan was to sink the ship and rescue the passengers but something went wrong in the frozen waters.
Do you believe in this story? If not why?
I think their plan is steering the Titanic hit the iceberg .But hatchers underestimated the dangers and they overestimated their ability to rescue the passengers.
Don't forget that the Titanic didn't have enough lifeboats to save everyone in the first place. And I'm sure it was a huge accident, unless this happened.
Mr X: Yes, is that Mr Y? I need you to put a giant iceberg in the Titanics established path, and hope that the captain tries to avoid it and ends up tearing all the hulls in the process. There is a nice $500,000 in it for you if we claim the insurance, we never talked.
Mr Y: Where the heck am I gonna get a giant iceberg? Hello? Hello?
I'm still saying it was a huge accident, insurance fraud is quite rampant, but sinking a 50,000 ton ship thats estimated at a cost of $7,500,000 to build? You're better off not building the ship.
Keep in mind, that that was $7,500,000, 1912 dollars. Roughly .4 billion by todays numbers. _________________ I have a new personal crusade. I'm going to hunt down the people who have strong opinions on subjects they don't understand. Then I'll bop them with this cardboard tube.- Dogbert
I ain't a legal expert, take what I say with a grain of salt.
Mr X: Yes, is that Mr Y? I need you to put a giant iceberg in the Titanics established path, and hope that the captain tries to avoid it and ends up tearing all the hulls in the process. There is a nice $500,000 in it for you if we claim the insurance, we never talked.
Mr Y: Where the heck am I gonna get a giant iceberg? Hello? Hello?
ROFL. It's been a long time since I laughed at something which made me splutter coffee all over my desk, but this was it!! Good one, Quenlin.
Mr Y: Hi Mr. E I hear you have an iceberg available.
Mr E: Yes I do it is of a nice size. I will sell it to you and transport it to any location you want for $250,000
Mr Y: How about if you transport it halfway and I transport it the other half and we say $175,000
Mr E: I can probably do that but I want $200,000
Mr Y: Alright $200,000 it is, can you drop it off at this location for me, and I will pick it up.
Mr E: Sure but isn't that in a shipping lane
Mr Y: No that just outside of it. It will be safe.
Mr E: Done I will get it there for ya.
No, I don't believe they hit an iceberg on purpose. If it happened the way it did in the movie,no I do not think it a scam. By the way, Iloved that movie.
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: The Titanic disaster was strategically planned
the Titanic disaster which succeeded to kill John Jacob Astor,Benjamin Guggenheim, Isador Strauss, George Dunton Widener who were against the Federal Reserve Bank,does it sound weird that in 1913,1 year to the day of the disaster,the Federal Reserve was implemented.
Google those four names. while you are at it Look up the history of the sister ship, the Olympic.
The Titanic had a sister ship named the Olympic. It got into a major collision with a British war ship. It got into a collision with another ship and the other ship sunk. It threw a propeller off and damaged itself. It even rammed a German sub during World War and sunk the sub. After the war, the Olympic continued to ply the seas on cross Atlantic voyages for the next thirty years. Yet we're supposed to believe that a big chunk of ice sank the Titanic? Give me a break!
Is it a coincidence that the Titanic sunk in water so deep it couldn't (at the time) be examined? With all the places that the Titanic could have sunk, it seems strange that it sank in a place where it was likely that no one would ever see it again. To find a choice place like that which would conceal evidence of foul play would have to be well planned in advance.
The Titanic only had enough lifeboats for half of its passengers and crew. It's as if they were planning to limit the amount of witnesses, isn't it? They spent a zillion dollars to build the Titanic yet we're supposed to believe they couldn't put another thirteen lifeboats on the deck because of a cost cutting measure? Did you see the china that these passengers were eating off of, the glasses they were drinking out of, and? That stuff cost a lot of money. And we're supposed to believe that they couldn't afford a few more cheap-ass lifeboats? I don't buy that. They wanted those people to die. It was part of the plan. _________________ Register Now to have your Insurance queries solved.
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: Titanic Lifeboats
The lack of life boats was not a cost cutting measure. It was so they had more room on the deck for passengers to frolic! In fact the Titanic had more life boats than the legal minimum! We have seen the wreck now and it definately is the Titanic. The promenade deck windows gives it away _________________ Register Now to have your Insurance queries solved.
Lifeboats - The Titanic's lifeboat capacity was governed by the British Board of Trade's rules, which were drafted in 1894. By 1912, these lifeboat regulations were badly out of date. The Titanic was four times larger than the largest legal classification considered under the eighteen year old rules and so by law was not required to carry more than sixteen lifeboats, regardless of the actual number of people onboard. When she left Southampton, the Titanic actually carried more than the law required: the sixteen rigid lifeboats were supplemented by four additional collapsible boats. The shipping industry was aware that the lifeboat regulations were going to be changed soon and Titanic's deck space and davits were designed for the anticipated "boats for all" policy, but until the law actually changed, White Star was not going to install them. The decision seems difficult to understand today, but in 1912, the attitude towards accident prevention was much different. At the turn of the century, ship owners were reluctant to exceed the legal minimum because lifeboats took up most of the space on first- and second-class decks. Boats were expensive to purchase, maintain, and affected a ship's stability. Finally, in the years before the Titanic Disaster, it was felt that the very presence of large numbers of lifeboats suggested that somehow the vessel was unsafe.
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Why did Titanic sink? - While the general consensus as to why Titanic sank is: "the Ship hit an iceberg;" in fact, the sinking resulted from a whole series of circumstances. Factors that lead to the sinking of the Titanic include: the speed and angle of the impact into the iceberg, the temperature of the water, the quality and makeup of the steel hull and rivits in 1912; the unusual position of the ice field during that period, the number and placement of the punctures in the six forward compartments, and the awareness of the crew. While Titanic did hit an iceberg, if it were not for the events leading to and resulting from the actual impact, Titanic probably would not have sunk. "Bad luck" might almost be a more specific conclusion as to why the Ship ultimately sank.
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Were Olympic and Titanic swapped as a part of an insurance fraud? - This was an "artificial controversy" invented a few years back when it was suggested that the Olympic, too heavily damaged in a collision to be fixed, was sent back to the builder's yard and her identity swapped with the Titanic, which was then under construction. The "theory" then goes on to state that the "Titanic" (in reality the damaged Olympic) was deliberately rammed into the iceberg as part of a massive insurance fraud, although the loss of life was a "genuine" accident since the White Star Liner Baltic was supposed to be in position nearby to effect an heroic rescue. The "theory" is completely disproved by well-documented physical differences between Olympic and Titanic. In addition, no artifact that was part of the Ship's hull or outfit has any other identification other than the Titanic's hull number – 401. Likewise, over the years, hundreds of items have been sold at auction from the Olympic, which was broken up in 1935 for scrap. No artifacts from Olympic have ever been marked with any other identification other than her hull number – 400. _________________ Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. - Ferris Bueller
