Co-insurance and deductible: How do they work in a policy?

A lot of you may be confused with the terms co-pay and deductibles. It is true that many individuals purchase health insurance without knowing that co-payment and deductibles are two different things. If you are purchasing health insurance you must be aware of what the policy holds for you and clearly you must be aware of the different terms used and what they mean.

What is a deductible and co-insurance?

Deductible: This is the amount that you are responsible to pay before your insurance company starts paying when a claim is made. Your premium value is also determined by the deductible that you choose. The higher the deductible, the lower will be your premium.

Co-insurance: Say you have a deductible of $2000 and the hospital bill comes around at $20,000. As a rule you have to pay off the deductible, i.e. $2000 out-of-pocket before the health insurance company begins to pay. So you still need $18000 to pay off the rest of the bill. If you have a 80/20 co-insurance and the insurance company pays 80%, you need to make 20% of the remaining $18,000. This means that your out-of-pocket costs would be deductible + the percentage of co-insurance you have agreed upon.

Co-insurance also has a stop loss clause that lets you pay your share of the co-insurance up to a certain limit for that year after which the insurance company bears 100% of the claim amount.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:12 am   Post subject: Co-insurance and deductible: How do they work in a policy?  

I was wondering whether its coinsurance after deductible or is it the whole insurance claim..Say I have a deductible of 500$ and a 70/30 coinsurance policy .When does the coinsurance come into play?After I pay the 500$ deductible or for the whole sum of the insurance claim?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:40 am   Post subject: coinsurance deductible  

The deductible comes off of your part if it's 70% then the deductible comes off that...(on all co-insurance claims I've worked anyway).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:11 pm   Post subject: deductible and coinsurance  

Hi dear..suppose you have a claim amount worth $ X with a deductible worth $500 & a Co-insurance of 70/30, over here you're all set to pay {(500 + 30% of (X-500)}.
I say this because co-insurance is calculated as the % of allowed expenses once the deductible is paid up. That's why I say you avail coinsurance after deductible is paid. Fatman
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:59 am   Post subject: coinsurance deductible  

I agree with what Fatman has said. Deductible needs to be paid before the insurance benefits kick in and it natural to have coinsurance after deductible. Its your must pay 'out-of-pocket' share and is determined in dollar terms.

Suppose, your insurer has promised to cover 80% of the medical expenses after you pay the deductibles. Hence, you should pay the deductible amount along with the remaining 20% of the costs.

Normally, the co-insurance is expressed as a percentage of the covered expenses.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:06 am   Post subject: coinsurance deductible  

So what is the use of deductible then ?If there is an agreement of sharing in co-insurance is it really necessary to have deductibles also in your policy?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:38 pm   Post subject: coinsurance and deductible  

The deductible must be met before the insurer will pay anything. It's normal to have coinsurance after deductible. Covered expenses in excess of the deductible, in your case, will be paid @ the 70/30 co-insurance rate, up to any "stop-loss" limit that may apply in your policy.

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So what is the use of deductible then ?If there is an agreement of sharing in co-insurance is it really necessary to have deductibles also in your policy?


It's impossible to find a major-medical insurance plan that does not contain a deductible, and has been so for decades. HMOs generally have no deductible, they have "co-pays." PPO plans will commonly have deductibles which will vary with the plan. The purpose of a deductible in medical expense coverage is no different than those found in car insurance. They are primarily intended to eliminate small claims, and force the insured to retain part of the cost of the loss. You may be able to change the amount of the deductible, depending on whether it's a group or inidvidual plan. Just remember, the lower the deductible, the higher the premium costs will be.

With many plans, the deductible is waived for certain services, but applied to others. Hope this helps to understand the importance of coinsurance and deductible in some way...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:55 am   Post subject: coinsurance deductible  

Some HSAs have no coinsurance after deductible has been met.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:48 am   Post subject: deductible and coinsurance  

The purpose of the deductible is to reduce the costs the insurer has to pay.

It keeps people from over using their policies. It also shifts the smaller expenses to the insured and this means that the insurance company doesn't have to pay administrative people to handle the claims for the small stuff.

A zero deductible policy with no coinsurance would not be cost effective. It is more efficient to have the insured pay for the smaller stuff. There's nothing wrong with getting your coinsurance after deductible is met.

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