Obama reform - How will the President pay for it?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:23 pm   Post subject: Obama reform - How will the President pay for it?  

Just wanted you guys to have a bigger discussion over the Obama reform. Is it going the same way that the President earlier wished to pay for his reform? Things are not quite clear to many of us!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:54 pm   Post subject:   

He will pay with monopoly money

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:41 am   Post subject:   

The money has to come through the taxes. I've heard of their proposition to tax those families who're earning more than $2,50,000 a year.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:13 am   Post subject:   

How about the mortgage interest? How about the donations through charities? What if they're cut down!

I don't see the middle class getting spared in the long run.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:48 am   Post subject:   

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How about the mortgage interest? How about the donations through charities?




Once the deduction on mortgage interest gets lowered the worth of our homes would start falling. Again, when there are no tax exemptions for these charitable contributions, the "rich" would contribute lesser. I don't see any "hope" out of such reforms.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:35 pm   Post subject:   

The deduction on mortgage interest had such little effect on my taxes this year that's hardly worth owning a house.



As far as how is he gonna pay for it, he's going to take it from folks who work for it and give it to those who don't. That's the socialists way.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:44 pm   Post subject:   

It will work the way everything else works in politics. What is proposed will be changed, it will be changed again, then it will be changed 500 more times. It will be changed so many times that no one will really understand what is taking place until after it's done. Even then people won't know. How will be it funded? How is everything else the government does funded? This too will be hidden so well that people won't really know until afterward. I liken it to the President giving us $300 to stimulate the economy and then 6 months later telling us that this was _our_ money they were giving us and now we owe it back.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:51 pm   Post subject:   

I really don't see much changing with this. So we're all going to be guaranteed issue states like Massachusetts...big deal. Insurers don't guarantee rates in Massachusetts. Fraud still happens all the time in Massachusetts. What will change, other than rates?



And what effect does making health coverage mandatory really have? Car insurance is mandatory in my state...but people still drive without insurance when they can't afford to pay premiums. You'll still have uninsured people flocking to emergency rooms to treat common colds, and you'll still have people piling up unpaid doctor and hospital bills and daring the collection agencies to come after them for money they never had in the first place.



Real reform would strengthen the DoIs. Let's go after the crooked policyowners who defraud the insurance companies. Let's go after the crooked insurance companies who duck out of playing claims. I guarantee you that if you fined and penalized the crooks and scammers in the industry, you'd have a lot more money to spend on the needy and indigent.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:43 pm   Post subject: insurance  

From what I understand about the 'Bill' (and there are alot of parts I DON'T understand about it), our Prez says, "everyone will get Medical Insurance." However...."everyone" will have to pay what the 'Bill' says to pay. That's not fair, at all, when some of us can't afford it now!! "Everyone will have Medical care!!" What about 'our' Senior Citizens? They are ALREADY hurting. The 'Bill' is giving Seniors a re-bate. For what?...to 'put back' into the gov for premiums they couldn't afford in the first place?! If anyone has anything 'positive' they see in this 'Bill', please tell me!!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:55 am   Post subject:   

Fines, fees, and tax increases. And when that doesn't work, back to the monopoly money.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:25 pm   Post subject: reform bill  

Well...........I guess that sums it up!!LOL Not seeng alot of 'positive' items come from this 'Bill'.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:14 pm   Post subject:   

How will he pay for it? He won't. You will.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:15 am   Post subject:   

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How will he pay for it? He won't. You will.





EXACTLY! Like all former POTUS, Obama will have free health care for the rest of his natural days, courtesy of the US Taxpayers.



The fallacy behind the newly created National Health Insurance Boondoggle is that it will lower the cost of insurance. Pure unadulterated BS.



Ordering insurance companies to cover persons with preexisting conditions does not happen at no cost to anyone. Everyone who is healthy will subsidize those who are not.



When Anthem Blue Cross filed its egregious 39% rate increase in California not too many weeks ago, they did so not on the basis of actual costs having risen, but in ANTICIPATION of increased costs due to the legislative impact of Congress' effort to "overhaul the system."



There are no winners in this fiasco. 32,000,000 people currently without health insurance will suddenly have it? With who writing the checks? And what of the 15,000,000 others who don't have it today, and won't have it in 2014, when all of this is supposed to begin?



Where Congress went wrong was trying to do something for 300,000,000+ people, 85% of whom have insurance, instead of merely focusing on the transient (and perhaps phantom) 47,000,000 who don't. If they had simply come up with a plan to deal with the 47,000,000 uninsured, it would have been a far more palatable proposition.



It still would not have been a workable plan, but it would not have polarized the nation. I doubt we will ever recover from this disastrous turn of events. Someone will become wealthy in the future writing the tome "The Rise and Fall of the American Empire."


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:34 am   Post subject: insurance  

Aren't we paying for everything else he "promised" us?? Or....the 'Rebate' thing.........whose money is he using for THAT? The U.S. doesn't HAVE any money.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:16 pm   Post subject:   

Oh . . . we have money. Just endorse your paycheck over to the government. If everyone did that for the next five years, we would eliminate about 80% of the national debt.



Just don't ask how you're supposed to pay your bills, buy food, or gas up the SUV to get to work.



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