How much to invest in annuities?

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:45 am Post Subject:

So having said that, why not have a real discussion of Variable Annuities instead of focusing on one statement which is not incorrect at its core, and which was expanded upon to include a mention of those particular "guarantees" in the same response?

Now, what YOU haven't said is that in order to get those special additional features that DON'T come with a "plain vanilla" Variable Annuity is the purchaser must accept (1) higher mortality risk charges in the separate account that erode investment returns in the subaccounts, (2) no guarantee of account value for the person who chooses to surrender their contract if they have a need to access their money, (3) higher surrender charges that erode the principal and/or earnings if a person wants to bail out of the contract instead of hanging around for the minimum income, and (4) substantially longer surrender periods (double or longer) than the typical VA without all the nuts, whipped cream, and cherries added on -- a difference of 7-13 years in a contract with a 15 to 20 year surrender period compared to the typical 7 or 8 years of that "plain vanilla" VA with ZERO GUARANTEES other than the death benefit guarantee of principal to a beneficiary if the contract is not annuitized.

All of this, and more, is true because, fundamentally, the guarantees are promising insurance company money to people who would not ordinarily be entitled to it with a "plain vanilla" VA contract -- which are still available, you know, and which many people still own.

And would you care to illuminate the audience on when the guarantees first started to become the most important part of VA marketing? Hint: they were entirely unseen before about 2001 or 2002.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 01:02 am Post Subject:

Why would I want to have a real conversation about VA's? I mean, if someone wants to have that conversation, fine, but I don't really see anybody interested in it here.

Look, Max, there are lots of problems with the VA products and I think that the biggest problem is that the salesmen themselves don't understand the products. I wasn't trying to defend the product. I was just simply pointing it out since you chose to bold and emphasize the lack of guarantees.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 01:09 am Post Subject:

The following "Investor Alert" is reproduced from the FINRA website http://www.finra.org/Investors/ProtectYourself/InvestorAlerts/AnnuitiesAndInsurance/P005976

Variable Annuities: Beyond the Hard Sell

The marketing efforts used by some variable annuity sellers deserve scrutiny—especially when seniors are the targeted investors. Sales pitches for these products might attempt to scare or confuse investors. One scare tactic used with seniors is to claim that a variable annuity will protect them from lawsuits or seizures of their assets. Many such claims are not based on facts, but nevertheless help land a sale.

While variable annuities can be appropriate as an investment under the right circumstances, as an investor, you should be aware of their restrictive features, understand that substantial taxes and charges may apply if you withdraw your money early, and guard against fear-inducing sales tactics.

FINRA is issuing this Investor Alert to help seniors and other prospective variable annuity buyers to make informed decisions about how to invest for their retirement. This alert focuses solely on deferred variable annuities and the unique issues they raise for investors.

What Are Variable Annuities?

Although variable annuities offer investment features similar in many respects to mutual funds, a typical variable annuity offers three basic features not commonly found in mutual funds:

Tax-deferred treatment of earnings.
A death benefit.
Annuity payout options that can provide guaranteed income for life.

Generally, variable annuities have two phases:

The "accumulation" phase when investor contributions—premiums—are allocated among investment portfolios—subaccounts—and earnings accumulate.

The "distribution" phase when you withdraw money, typically as a lump sum or through various annuity payment options.

If the payments are delayed to the future, you have a deferred annuity. If the payments start immediately, you have an immediate annuity.

As its name implies, a variable annuity's rate of return is not stable, but varies with the stock, bond and money market subaccounts that you choose as investment options. There is no guarantee that you will earn any return on your investment and there is a risk that you will lose money. Because of this risk, variable annuities are securities registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). The SEC and FINRA also regulate sales of variable insurance products.

Evaluating Variable Annuities

The variety of features offered by variable annuity products can be confusing. For this reason, it can be difficult for investors to understand what's being recommended for them to buy—especially when facing a hard-charging salesperson.

Before you consider purchasing a variable annuity, make sure you fully understand all of its terms. Carefully read the prospectus. Here are seven factors you should bear in mind before investing:

1. Liquidity and Early Withdrawals

Deferred variable annuities are long-term investments. Getting out early can mean taking a loss. Many variable annuities assess surrender charges for withdrawals within a specified period, which can be as long as six to eight years.

Also, any withdrawals before an investor reaches the age of 59 ½ are generally subject to a 10 percent tax penalty in addition to any gain being taxed as ordinary income.

2. Sales and Surrender Charges

Most variable annuities have a sales charge. Like class B shares of mutual funds, many variable annuity shares typically do not charge a front-end sales charge, but they do impose asset-based sales charges or surrender charges. These charges normally decline and eventually are eliminated the longer you hold your shares. For example, a surrender charge could start at 7 percent in the first year and decline by 1 percent per year until it reaches zero.

3. Fees and Expenses

In addition to sales and surrender charges, variable annuities may impose a variety of fees and expenses when you invest in them, such as:

Mortality and expense risk charges, which the insurance company charges for the insurance to cover:
guaranteed death benefits; annuity payout options that can provide guaranteed income for life; or guaranteed caps on administrative charges.

Administrative fees, for record-keeping and other administrative expenses.

Underlying fund expenses, relating to the investment subaccounts.

Charges for special features, such as:
stepped-up death benefits;
guaranteed minimum income benefits;
long-term health insurance; or
principal protection.

These annual fees on variable annuities can reach 2 percent or more of the annuity's value. Remember, you will pay for each variable annuity benefit. If you don't need or want these features, you should consider whether this is an appropriate investment for you.

4. Taxes

While earnings in a variable annuity accrue on a tax-deferred basis—typically a big selling point—they do not provide all the tax advantages of 401(k)s and other before-tax retirement plans. 401(k)s and other before-tax retirement plans not only allow you to defer taxes on income and investment gains, but allow your contributions to reduce your current taxable income. That's why most investors should consider annuity products only after they make their maximum contributions to their 401(k)s and other before-tax retirement plans. To learn more about 401(k)s, please read Smart 401(k) Investing.

Once you start withdrawing money from your variable annuity, earnings (but not principal) will be taxed at the ordinary income rate, rather than at the lower capital gains rates applied to investments in stocks, bonds, mutual funds or other non-tax-deferred vehicles in which funds are held for more than one year.

Furthermore, proceeds of most variable annuities do not receive a "step-up" in cost basis when the owner dies. Other types of investments, such as stocks, bonds, and mutual funds, do provide a step up in tax basis upon the owner's death.

5. Bonus Credits

In an attempt to attract investors, many variable annuities now offer bonus credits that can add a specified percentage to the amount invested in the variable annuity, generally ranging from 1 percent to 5 percent for each premium payment you make. Bonus credits, however, are usually not free. In order to fund them, insurance companies typically impose high mortality and expense charges and lengthy surrender charge periods.

Exchanging or Replacing Your Current Annuity

An exchange of an existing annuity for a new annuity may be the only way a salesperson can generate additional business. However, the new variable annuity may have a lower contract value and a smaller death benefit. You should exchange your annuity only when it is better for you and not just better for the person trying to sell you a new annuity. To learn more about exchanges, please read our Investor Alert, Should You Exchange Your Variable Annuity?

6. Guarantees

Insurance companies issuing variable annuities provide a number of specific guarantees. For example, they may guarantee a death benefit or an annuity payout option that can provide income for life. These guarantees are only as good as the insurance company that gives them. While it is an uncommon occurrence that the insurance companies that back these guarantees are unable to meet their obligations, it happens. There are several credit rating agencies that rate a company's financial strength. Information about these agencies can be found on the SEC's website.

7. Variable Annuities within IRAs

Investing in a variable annuity within a tax-deferred account, such as an individual retirement account (IRA) may not be a good idea. Since IRAs are already tax-advantaged, a variable annuity will provide no additional tax savings. It will, however, increase the expense of the IRA, while generating fees and commissions for the broker or salesperson.

Also, if the annuity is within a traditional (rather than a Roth) IRA, the government requires that you start withdrawing income no later than the April 1 that follows your 70½ birthday, regardless of any surrender charges the annuity might impose.

Individual Retirement Annuities.

Some variable annuity providers sell what is termed an Individual Retirement Annuity (IRA). You should be aware that this "IRA" is not an Individual Retirement Account (IRA). The Internal Revenue Service sets specific restrictions regarding Individual Retirement Annuities, which are not met by all annuity products. To learn more, please read IRS Publication 590.

How to Protect Yourself

Brokers recommending variable annuities must explain to you important facts, including:

liquidity issues, such as potential surrender charges and 10 percent tax penalties;
fees, including mortality and expense charges, administrative charges, and investment advisory fees;
and market risk.

Brokers also must collect important information from you about your age, marital status, occupation, financial and tax status, investment objectives, and risk tolerance to assess whether a variable annuity is suitable for you.

Before purchasing a variable annuity, you should specifically—

Ask the person recommending that you purchase a variable annuity:

How long will my money be tied up? Are there surrender charges or other penalties if I withdraw funds from the investment earlier than I anticipated?
Will you be paid a commission or receive any type of compensation for selling the variable annuity? How much?
What are the risks that my investment could decrease in value?
What are all the fees and expenses?

Thoroughly Check Out Your Broker

Check FINRA BrokerCheck to learn whether your broker is licensed and has a history of complaints.

And remember to ask yourself:

Am I already contributing the maximum amount to my 401(k) plan and other tax-deferred retirement plans?
Do I have a long-term investment objective? Am I going to need the money before the surrender period ends (usually at least seven to 10 years)? Will I need the money before I'm 59½?
Do I understand how the variable annuity works, the benefits it provides, and charges I have to pay?
Have I read and understood the prospectus?
Are there special features provided such as added long-term care insurance that I don't need?
If I've decided to purchase a variable annuity, have I shopped around and compared the features of various variable annuities, such as sales loads and other fees and expenses?
Do I understand the effect annuity payments could have on my tax status?
If I'm considering purchasing a variable annuity within an IRA, do I understand that IRAs already provide for tax-deferred savings?
Am I being pressured into making a quick purchase?

Have You Already Purchased a Variable Annuity?

If you have purchased a variable annuity and now have second thoughts, the policy may have a "free look" period that allows you to cancel within a specific period.

If you believe you were wrongly sold a variable annuity you can file a complaint online at FINRA's Investor Complaint Center.

Additional Resources

Understanding Professional Designations
Investor Alert, Should You Exchange Your Variable Annuity?
Investor Alert, Should You Exchange Your Variable Life Insurance Policy?
Investor Alert, Equity Indexed Annuities—A Complex Choice.
SEC, Variable Annuities: What You Should Know.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:10 pm Post Subject:

There is no guarantee that you will earn any return on your investment and there is a risk that you will lose money.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 05:03 pm Post Subject:

By the way, I tend not to be a fan of VA's, but there is much that is not complete about what you posted from FINRA.

For instance, like most articles that take a negative VA point of view, it fails to mention that the majority of VA money goes into qualified money and the reason has nothing to do with tax deferral and is done for the guarantees.

In other words, people primarily purchase these products precisely because they can get guarantees.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 05:34 pm Post Subject:

Go argue that one with FINRA and the SEC.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 07:08 pm Post Subject:

If FINRA wants to have a conversation with me, I'll be glad to have it.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:19 pm Post Subject:

For instance, like most articles that take a negative VA point of view, it fails to mention that the majority of VA money goes into qualified money and the reason has nothing to do with tax deferral and is done for the guarantees.

If FINRA wants to have a conversation with me, I'll be glad to have it.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:08 am Post Subject:

Max,

I can't include links. Check out Limra dot com. In 2011, close to 90% of new VA sales elected a guaranteed living benefit rider when one was available. 19 of the top 20 sellers of VAs have these living benefit riders.

If you contact any of the wholesalers for any of those companies they will confirm that the majority of sales involve qualified money. For the vast majority of them, their major market is the IRA rollover market. The lone exception is probably TIAA CREF who gets most of their business from the 403(b) market.

I stand by my quote. Your change of my quote is also accurate.

The point of my quote is:
1)Of the money that goes into VAs, the majority of this is qualified money
2)Of the money that goes into VAs, the majority of this has guaranteed living benefits.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:09 am Post Subject:

I won't take a proactive approach with FINRA because it won't help me and won't help my clients. It will do nothing except waste my time.