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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:36 am   Post subject: Spouse change life insurance without consent?  

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I am currently going through a divorce. We are still legally married, however I recently found out my spouse is terminally ill. Can a spouse be removed as beneficiary without being notified or without consent? The policy was issued an maintained as part of his retirement pkg. A group life ins. policy issued in 1988. Thanks for any help on this gquestion

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:47 am   Post subject:   

Bowden, if its a private life insurance plan you can change the beneficiary name whenever you want. However, if the policy is through the employer then you might have to change it according to the ERISA guideline.



Does he has another policy? who's the beneficiary on those plans?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:41 am   Post subject:   

Well, since the divorce would change your spouse status, the benefits would get terminated once things get finalised. However, if he wants or if it's mentioned in the divorce decree, he may maintain a policy naming you as the beneficiary on it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:01 am   Post subject:   

Hi Boxfullofrocks,



If its mentioned in the divorce decree then I don't think it would be a problem. If its not, then I don't think the OP's consent would be sought by her husband. But what if its not a divorce with mutual consent!

Or what if its the OP's husband who'd filed for it? Would it still be the same?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:31 am   Post subject: insurance  

I wouldn't think it would matter if the Insurance policy was from an employer or not..........the Beneficiary ( I think?) can STILL be changed anytime without the 'others' consent.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:38 am   Post subject:   

There are a few states or group policys that require a spouse to 'sign off' if the insured wants to remove them or change them as beneficiary HOWEVER these are rare, and still would not pertain to you since you are in the process of a divorce, your estranged husband has every right to choce whomever he wants as his beneficiary now that he (apparently) see's death closer he is/has made HIS decisions who HE wants to have the life insurance money...i doubt there is anything you can do . out of curiosity who did he change it to, and how long does the poor guy have?



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:54 am   Post subject: insurance  

Hi, LORI. On my Life Insurance policy, I din't have to have my spouse ( at the time..) 'sign off'. We were seperated at the time, but living in different places. I don't know if a Military Life Insurance policy would have different 'rules' to it or not.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:22 pm   Post subject:   

As I said I think it is a state and policy thing...I know that my 'group' policys thru my employer and also 'maybe' my 401k if your spouse is not your beneficiary you have to have them sign a form...now i don't know if the form is to 'inform them'' and they are acknowledging they know this...or if it's consent...never had the need....i would think this is the exception not the rule, i know in MO anyway there are some funny twists to 'goup' life policys. (been thru it with my brother AND two others)



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:29 pm   Post subject:   

Some states have guidelines stating that in the event of a divorce, the spouse as beneficiary is automatically removed and the contingent becomes the new primary. Depends what state you are in and what the laws are. Seems kind of harsh to be divorcing someone terminally ill, but hey, what do I know?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:36 pm   Post subject:   

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Seems kind of harsh to be divorcing someone terminally ill, but hey, what do I know?
i kinda thought so too, but we don't know the whole story, so best not to judge i reakon.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:41 pm   Post subject: Can Spouse change life insurance without consent?  

Thanks for all the responses. We live in California. It was a group policy, originated in 1988 through the employer that he retired from in 1997. We have been going through a divorce for 3 years and have not yet officially been pronounced divorced by any court. I don't know that he changed it at all, but knowing the type of person he is, he probably has. I filed for divorce in 2005 and he was not terminal or sick when I filed. He just found out 2 weeks ago that he was terminal. He probably has 2- 3 months to live. I have offered to help him, knowing he has no one else. He is still angry that I left him and being very difficult.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:10 am   Post subject:   

Oh bowden I'm sorry and hope he accepts your offer of help...if you know for sure that he is ill (not just a rumor ) maybe if you offer to stop the divorce proceedings and try to make his final time as comfortable as possible he will reconsider his bitterness for his sake (and yours) i hope so.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:13 pm   Post subject:   

Hi Lori,



Is it possible to get over this divorce thing in real quick time?



I'd feel its more about the bitterness that the two had shared once than trying to change his mind all of a sudden. I guess the beneficiaries are voted upon the honesty and care that they have shown on the insured for a considerable period of time. What do you think!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:12 pm   Post subject: Divorcing in the State of Illinois  

I filed for divorce February 2010 from my husband of 20 years. I have since moved to another resident and my husband is keeping the house. He is to buy me out, but in the meantime he does not have a steady income as an electricial contractor and barely meeting monthly bills that includes the mortgage. My name of course is still on the mortgage. My problem is if something were to happen to him the house be taken by the bank because I would not have the funds to pay the bank off. Now, my husband and I have a joint life insurance policy and they consider him the owner eventhough I signed the same application he did. He has contacted the agent and requested a beneficary change form; not sure if he has submitted yet. I myself, have a individual life insurance policy for myself only. My dilemma is that I don't know how long it will take for the divorce to be granted, I need to know how do I protect my investment (home) in case of an unfortunate incident should befall him. I need to know can I get a policy on my estrange husband legally?

I know he wouldn't sign any application out of spite.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:31 am   Post subject:   

You need to include it in your divorce decree (very common practice). You can negotiate provisions, either he pays the premiums or you do (might want to pay them and be owner since he's having problems making payments and you can keep more control over this and ensure that it stays in force).

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