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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:38 pm   Post subject: Missouri motorcycle salvage title  

I'm looking for someone who has purchased a vehicle with a salvage title, from a dealer that purchased it from the insurance companie or auction service and has secured missouri or Illinois registration on that vehicle. When I contacted Il. Sec. of State they said I needed a rebuilder's license, or have a licensed rebuilder do the work on the vehicle with salvage title to secure Il. registration(put it on the road).


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:57 pm   Post subject:   

I'm not sure if there is any difference between an auto and bike, and doubt there is...in MO you just have to have in reinspected after the work is done (by MO hwy patrol-set up an appointment)...then they will change the classification....it would help to answer your question if we had a little more info...ie why do you need the info on both states? what is the circumstance you are in...are you wanting to just retain your own salvage and repair it, or have purchased a salvage bike...i'm just not real clear in what you are wanting to do...



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:47 pm   Post subject: Mo vin inspection  

I was wondering if anybody has gone through the process in missouri. I purchased a bike that had a salvage title. I have since repaired the damage, mainly fairing damage. my question is how strict or tough is it to pass this inspection. I have reciepts for new parts and vin for the bike the fairing is off of but will a dent in my gas tank fail me? I know in kansas they just ceck the vin on all major parts and thats it but I have gotten the feeling its really tough in missouri. Any advice or experience would be appreciated. Thanks


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:34 pm   Post subject:   

You can direct your questions to the department of revenue, motor vehicle bureau in Missouri.

You can go to your local motor vehicle licensing bureau and get the forms you need. Title, bills of sale, application for inspection, application for registration, one day fee for transporting vehicle. You must call your local nearest highway patrol inspection headquarters and make an appointment. The purpose of the inspection has nothiing to do with the quality of the repair or even if it is safe to operate. They are only interesting in identifying all major compenents that may have been changed or replaced due to the accident. You must have the bills of sale on all parts or invoices. They are mostly looking for vehicles repaired with stolen parts or change of identification numbers with various parts. Your new title will be branded in a corner of it as PRIOR SALVAGE so that subsequent buyer will be made aware.



All the forms you may need can be downloaded at the state web site along with manuals on how to proceed. http://dor.mo.gov/mvdl/motorv/forms/ Always ask the branch of highway patrol to verify all the documents they will need and any special instructions that may apply or may recently have changed.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:05 pm   Post subject:   

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The purpose of the inspection has nothiing to do with the quality of the repair or even if it is safe to operate. They are only interesting in identifying all major compenents that may have been changed or replaced due to the accident
Mike this must be a local thing within our own state, I know in my town they go over those cars with a fine tooth comb, and most certainly check the road worthiness, and most particularly safety items. I've personally only seen two of these inspections, maybe it was the highway patrol person that did the inspects but I'm tellin' you this guy was thorough...to the point of irritation really. Wink



Echopsi, MIke has given you some good info, be sure you call your local troop to set up an inspection time, and ask if there is anything additional that they may require, or that will help the inspection good smoothly.



If you don't mind after you've done this come back and post your experience, it would be a benefit to others...



thanks, and good luck!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:32 am   Post subject:   

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this must be a local thing within our own state, I know in my town they go over those cars with a fine tooth comb, and most certainly check the road worthiness, and most particularly safety items. I've personally only seen two of these inspections, maybe it was the highway patrol person that did the inspects but I'm tellin' you this guy was thorough...to the point of irritation really.




To the best of my knowledge, participation, and observation, these inspections are nothing more than a filter to catch stolen parts used in the repair of rebuilt vehicles. I have never seen an inspector pull out even as much as a tape measure to make symmetrical measurements of clipped vehicles or severely damaged unibodies. I don't even think the positions are filled by trained collision experts.



Based on my personal inspections of vehicles that consumers bring by my business for free visual pre purchase inspections of rebuilt cars for sale, I know for a fact that there are families riding around in potential death traps. I am not much worried about driving one as I am worried about one of these sheet metal screwed together, still bent, home depot caulked cars colliding into me or my family by someone unaware of the piece of crap they are driving.



Any state is missing a revenue bonanza here. They could eliminate a lot of these potential death traps ever making it to the nation's highways, if they would require a printout of the unibody and suspension specs before they could recieve a new title. No they couldn't bring in their own doctored altered printouts, they would have to be set up and meausured at the time of the state inspection and a fee assessed to the person registering them. But do you know why there is not a safety net for consumers? It is because if an insurer can resale them with good titles like a major insurer did a few years ago and settled with alll 50 state attorney generals for gettng caught, they would not bring the high resale value of salvage that they do.



It would be one thing if those rebuilders were going to be driven by the people who repair them but it's a totally different thing when someone's niece is going to take off halfway across the country in one, let alone the other side of town with all the defects and safety issues surrounding them. But they are going to sell them to unsuspecting buyers that have no clue to the history of the vehicle or the skills or licensing of the person reconstructing them. When billy bob and jimmie joe can buy these wrecks and fix them in the back yard between two oak trees, it's not a good thing for future owners of them.



The state I reside in does little to protect the owners of collision damaged vehicles whether they be rebuilders or those repaired under the threshold. A beautician and a nail technician have to be certified and licensed by the state but anybody can qualify as a colliison repairer and can buy the parts to fix them without being registered by the state as a licensed repair facility if they rebuild fewer than six a year.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:06 am   Post subject: getting a salvage title changed to a rebuilt title in illino  

i bought a car with a salvage title from south dakota, now that its back in illinois i cant get regerstired or title in illinois,is there any way i can get rebuilt title in illinos on my own


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:54 am   Post subject:   

In Missouri, you do not need a license. The process was revamped a few years ago and it is pretty relaxed as it is in Kansas. You will need the MO application for Title and License, confirming the prior salvage, the fee which id like $7 or something, and a small processing fee. The title for the unit, safety inspection or ID/OD inspec and a copy of the notice of title requirements. Who is your insurance company? Depending on who it is, you will be required to have it inspected. I do salavge inspections for Farmers, Geico, Liberty Mutual, Progressive and Shelter. They will most likely send someone to you or you will be required to go to the Adesa Auto Auction in Belton. I am there on Thursdays from 9am-11. It's just a quick walk around.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:27 pm   Post subject:   

Trench, did I miss something or didn't cboy say he's in ILL.? Confused



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:30 pm   Post subject:   

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Trench, did I miss something or didn't cboy say he's in ILL.?




No you didn't miss anything Laughing , I was just combing the OP and the other guest's post. I don't see where he said he was in Illinois, he just called the sec of state. And he wanted the process for one of the two states.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:43 pm   Post subject:   

cboy, jumped in on the thread.. with.....

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bought a car with a salvage title from south dakota, now that its back in illinois i cant get regerstired or title in illinois,is there any way i can get rebuilt title in illinos on my own

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:40 pm   Post subject: Salvage Title in IL  

Well I am still in the process after buying a salvage motorcycle from a dealer in OH. It hasn't been that hard once I understood the BS and bureaucracy that entailed. First I went to the currency exchange to get the title for the bike switched from my name and salvage to an IL one. Several refused anything but I did find one that at least would process the ppaerwork and issue me a temp license palte. This the cherry or gold . Now I can get around and do the necessary BS required. First I had to go to a IDOT safety inspection lane. Did this and got my Rebuilt sticker in 15 min for $25. The next step is where I ran inot the most BS. You do have to get a licensed rebuilder to fill paperwork attesting to repairs even after having the bike totally pass highway safety inspection. This is TOTAL bullshit butit is IL.This must be to protect the asshole unions, or something like that. The repairs needed on my bike were, replace clutch handle and left mirror($125), get a longer bolt bolt for a stipped out riser($2) and a new speedometer as odometer no longer worked($181). Damage was minimized because of highway pegs so engine was spotless.None of these repairs required any real mechanical knowlege but according to the State needed to be done or certified by a licensed rebuilder. What a laugh. How my motorcycle was totalled is beyond me in the first place. It was obviously dropped on the left side. Small dent in fuel tank, two screw holes and samll dents in rear fender, broken cluch handle, broken odometer, and partially stripped riser bolt that totalled a 2005 vtx1300r. Highly unlikely. Granted replacement tank painted, $1600, and fender $1200 hardly add up to the value of the bike-$6500-$7000. The riser problem was proabably mis diagnosed as broken forks in order for any damage to approch a totalled value. So the work I did was someting a HS kid cold have done, and no parts were essential to real operation of the vehicle. What was smart is that I did take pictures of the damaged areas before fixing them so I have before and after. I did find a licensed repair shop to inspect and verify my work for $50 and since I already got a temp tag I didn't need them to take the bike for State Police inspection, I could. A lot of BS but my appt with State Police is scheduled for Wed and all the stuff I need is done.


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