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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:51 am   Post subject: AGAIN my posts are being deleted  

Well.........apparently I am having posts being deleted again. I don't know which MOD is doing it. However....I am getting no explanation to this action. LAKEMEN..maybe you can do something about this. Why should I post here if my advice/coments are being deleted? Does anyone have this much trouble???????!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:19 am   Post subject:   

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Well.........apparently I am having posts being deleted again.




Wow!! Your posts have got deleted Shocked But I can see that you have around 139 posts on the board last month.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:29 am   Post subject: insurance  

You're right. I DO have alot of posts. It's just RECENTLY ( the last few days, or so..) that my posts are being deleted. I've discussed this with one of the MODS..just haven't gotten an answer back yet. I posted on 3 or 4 different threads, last night. NONE of my posts are their anymore. I'm just trying to find out why. THIS problem has been going on the last 2 or 3 weeks.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:48 pm   Post subject:   

Hi Lakemen..



YES..it seems quite ridiculous to me..many times I don't find my posts - either they are elsewhere or removed by a mod. How do I justify myself being a senior member esp. when I've been associated with this community for so long?



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:13 pm   Post subject:   

I have also noticed that oftentimes when I submit a post, I get the "No Topics Exist" message and the post seems to go into cyberspace or somewhere.



I think if we are going to have "Moderators", they should abide by the Terms and Conditions of this community and not just use a personal judgment as to what posts stay and which ones go.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:14 pm   Post subject:   

And then, there are still members who seem to always forget to log-in! Laughing



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:54 pm   Post subject: insurance  

Well.......I don't forget to log in. However......the problem, with deleting posts, continues. Apparently I'm not the only one whose posts are being deleted. Any solutions?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:05 pm   Post subject:   

See my post above this one for the solution.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:07 pm   Post subject: insurance  

Hopefully I will get SOME kind of 'insight' about what's going on, instead of sarcastic comments.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:28 pm   Post subject:   

SD, I believe what is going on is post that are not relaying info that helps the original poster with their problem is the ones getting deleted. I do not think it is meant to be mean at all. I'm sorry you are having this problem but I imagine it costs the sight alot of money to pay for posts that are not giving helpful info.

If they are ones that say simply "I'm sorry" or does not help out then that is why they are deleting them. Just a guess here. Try keeping the posts on topic and on the informative side and you should be fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:57 pm   Post subject:   

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Hopefully I will get SOME kind of 'insight' about what's going on, instead of sarcastic comments.
Okay... but if you don't and you want some more wise ass cracks, let me know! It's all I'm capable of right now. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:01 am   Post subject:   

LOL. Are you being a bad boy T scope?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:29 am   Post subject:   

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they are elsewhere
Roddrick what do you mean 'elsewhere'? Like in another thread maybe? Let me address that first if that's the case, (and I'm ONLY speaking for myself in this post, let's make that real clear Wink)...If someone 'piggy backs' an old thread...with a new problem/question and someone has posted an answer to that 'new' problem...I will generally (if i catch it Wink ) split the thread...meaning I'll start a new thread with the 'new' problem, and any comments or posts to that particular 'new' problem will be moved along with that new post to the new thread...is that what you mean? If so it has zero effect on your post, count, cash anything...and that definately needs to be done..if a piggy back post comes to a thread, a new thread needs to be created...If that's not what you meant please do let me know...and I'll try again Smile



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I have also noticed that oftentimes when I submit a post, I get the "No Topics Exist" message and the post seems to go into cyberspace or somewhere.
Ok Guest which one are you? Who forgot to log in? Laughing Are you talking about getting an update email then when you click on the link you get that message? I get those too, and only assume that the post that generated the alert has been deleted...You'd be surprised how much out and out spam that I alone delete ...I don't know how much the other mods or admin. delete, but assume it's as much as or more...and I'm talking blatant spam, ie, 'i just found this site and they offer really good deals on ins.' posted on like 100 threads.. Rolling Eyes most of these posts you all never see because we've cleaned them out...but they (i think) still generate an email until they are deleted...I don't think anyone would argue with the fact this type of trash needs to be removed, (and yes, I always ask that the poster of such garbage be banned Evil or Very Mad )...Guest if this isn't what you meant by this message please let me know...and I'll try that one again too..



SD, honey you misundertood Tcope's post completely..
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instead of sarcastic comments
..it wasn't a smart remark to you..it was a joke about the topic.
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See my post above this one for the solution.
There was no post above, he was acting like his prior post (with the solution) had been deleted.. Laughing (pretty funny by the way Todd Wink ) I'll admit Todd's humor some times is too fast for me and I have to read it twice... LaughingLaughingEmbarassed (you're such a smart boy Todd! Wink )
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I think if we are going to have "Moderators", they should abide by the Terms and Conditions of this community and not just use a personal judgment as to what posts stay and which ones go.
Guest, I don't know what Terms and Conditions have been violated by a mod...if there have been violations then the Lakemen need to know...Not sure either, what you mean by personal judgement Confused Deleting, editing, and moving, a thread or post (or parts of) is all a personal judgement made by a moderator or administrator. ... I make a personal decision as a moderator that a post needs to be deleted, moved, or that I need to edit a post and pull out a web address, phone number etc....I'm not clear about your statement... please explain it more clearly and your reasoning behind it...so I can try and address it for you.







Ok, now on to the main topic...I had ask the Lakemen for some clarification on this because I was getting notes from some posters and SD is clearly very upset by this. I got a response this morning and this is my understanding.



Post that do not add content to the topic by way of getting or giving information, or assistance to the OP will be deleted...a few examples might be (btw, these are NOT to my knowledge any actual posts...just examples I'm making up)..."Oh that's sounds awful, I'm so sorry this happened, someone will be along to help soon", "I had a second counsin's wifes, step brother that had something kind of like this, but I can't remember what happened". "I'm not an expert but one will come along shortly" you get the idea..



Here's the deal, while these are benign at first glance (to me too!)...and in fact seem kind and welcoming (and I'm sure that is the true motive)...we do get paid PER post...I honestly forget this ALL the time...from a business perspective the owners and administrators cannot forget that they are paying for that! When you look at it that way it makes a lot of sense (to me anyway)...Also it does distract from the thread, and adds nothing to the content. Now, there is nothing wrong with expressing sympathy, and empathy FOLLOWED by good information...it is just not acceptable to expect to be paid for posts that LACK content..

From our Terms of Use:
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Any forum post(s) that are considered to be aimless and intended to generate income only would not be entertained in our forums.


Another problem is rephasing prior posts...(example)...poster #2 says, ''OP, if you would supply the state you are in, we would be in a better postion to answer that question" then poster #4-8 and 9 say something like, ''We need the state to help you" or "what state do you live in" see the point? And really would you pay six people to say the same thing if it were coming from your own pocket?

Directly from the Terms of Use:
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Forum posts that are irrelevant to a particular thread or bears repetitive information would not be considered for payments and may be removed by our moderators. Similarly, any comments made to such irrelevant posts would not be considered for payments and may be removed.






Now, that all being said, we all wander from time to time, but when there is a pattern or excessive amount of this, it has to be dealt with. I was a little ticked off and did not understand it fully myself, until recently...but it is perfectly clear to me, and makes perfect sense as well...It's a business decision. I've asked if there was a way to simply 'dock' the amount of that particular post and let the post remain, but there is (at this time anyway) no way for them to do this..



I sincerely hope that no one is offended by this, and once we all think about will realize it makes perfect sense. This is an insurance forum aimed at helping the consumer to better understand and appreciate this business. I believe that we ALL provide a valueable service to those that visit this site.



I welcome comments to this post, and hope you all will weigh in with any questions and/or concerns, as well as your opinions. I further hope that this helps clear up some misunderstandings. I think that communication is the key, and think perhaps this open discussion is a little over due. But it's here now...so comments?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:03 am   Post subject: insurance  

On some of my posts, I amy not be "relaying 'DIRECT' information" to the OP, but, I try to give them advice on what 'options' they can take. Apparently when I DO do this, the posts are getting deleted, too.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:59 am   Post subject:   

Up mix word sense not make stay post go fun word make delete?


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